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UL and SUL is bullshit...

unless you have stupid amounts of money to spend on the absolute lightest gear. I see hikers like Neemor, Darwin, Homemade Wonderlust with their 36L packs(Neemor - Kumo) and their ZPacks Duo which is about the size of a rugby ball and a sleeping bag that's about the same size again.

My pack, including 2 meals and 2.7L water weighed in at 20 pounds. When I took out the water and food it weighed 12 pounds.


  • Compass
  • Headlamp
  • Extra batteries (button batteries)
  • first aid kit
  • lighter
  • tinder
  • fero rod
  • food
  • water
  • tarp
  • footprint
  • bivy
  • blanket or sleeping bag
  • Sleeping pad
  • pillow OPTIONAL
  • tent poles OPTIONAL
  • extra cordage
  • stakes (12x)
  • pot, stove, fuel
  • knife
  • spoon
  • trekking poles (not included in the weight)
  • whistle
  • water filter, cnoc 2L bag
  • poncho tarp
  • extra socks, underwear
  • toilet paper
  • camp soap
  • hand sanitizer
  • quick dry towel
  • insect repellent MANDATORY
  • phone, extra battery, cable (not included in the weight)
  • candle lantern
  • trowel (use a stick)
  • pack with sitpad

taking some Sriracha along with me for my Ramen-Bomb
My pack; a Gossamer Gear Kumo 36L, says this about itself: "25 lb. maximum carry capacity, but 20 lbs. is better. "

There are a few things to consider here...

  • I could drop the bivy but it only weights a few oz.
  • I could replace the blanket (SnugPak) with a XL microtowel or given that the temp will be 72F tonight who cares. The blanket/sleeping bag weighs 2 pounds. It's important to note that a 30F down sleeping bags weighs nearly 3 pounds. Which means it's a wash.
  • I could drop the polycryo foorprint but it packs small and weights nothing
  • The pillow is definitely a luxury item and the tent poles would substitute for the trekking poles.
  • The Gossamer Gear pad weighs 1/3rd of a pound and the Klymit inflatable weights 2/3rds.
  • With the bivy I could drop the tarp and use the poncho tarp instead... and add an emergency raincoat instead.
  • My umbrella weighs half a pound and that will definitely be left behind. It's better for creating shade in the heat and that's not necessary right now.
To be continued...

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