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perlbrew and mojolicious

I'm not a fan of the guys over at mojo but it's probably the better of the Perl micro-webframeworks out there. So I was curious if mojolicious was going to work with perlbrew.

The first thing I did was install perlbrew. There are several ways to do it. I decided upon the first option:
curl -Lk http://xrl.us/perlbrewinstall | bash

What I do not like about the above command is that the code is assumed to be good and safe. It would have been a little more helpful of the code were downloaded from CPAN.

Once the module was installed. I was directed to add a line to my .bash_profile and then restart my terminal session. Easy enough.

NOTE: I did not recall what the base version was so I edited the .bash_profile file again and commented out the line that I was instructed to include. Then I opened a new terminal session and executed the command:
perl -v

My default/host perl version was 5.12.3. And I wanted to install perl 5.16.0 the latest and current version of perl:
perlbrew install 5.16.0

Easy enough! At this point there was a message on the console that suggested a tail command that I could use to monitor the build. That was easy too. In the end it took about an hour or so and I had a working Perl 5.16.0. (feel the perlbrew doc for the interesting commands)

As a last step I wanted to see what was going to happen when I installed mojolicious, could it be installed in userspace, and which version was it doing to use. So I installed mojo:
curl -L cpanmin.us | perl - Mojolicious

I omitted the 'sudo' that the mojo guys recommended and it installed fine. But now the proof needed to be in the pudding. I created a hello.pl file:
use Mojolicious::Lite;
get '/' => {text => 'Hello World! ' . $] };
app->start;

Notice that I added the $] to the message. This is going to append the Perl version number to the end of the hello world string. The good news is that when I ran the application:
morbo hello.pl

and launched my browser, I received a message that told me I was using Perl version 5.16.0. Perlbrew was a success and so was Mojo.

Comments

  1. It has been a few months since I had any interactions with the mojo team but I thought I would submit a ticket to their system requesting that they specifically document the interaction with perlbrew. The response I received was:

    "Closing this issue since it doesn't appear to be a bug report or feature request. Please use the mailing list or IRC if you need help." -- Sebastian Riedel

    I recognize that teams can be inundated with stupid requests or even trolled into paralysis, however, my request was sincere. Until this person changes his apparent contempt for others I cannot and will not recommend mojo as a project.

    His twitter description:

    "Supervillain in the Perl universe..." -- Sebastian Riedel

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  2. Cooler heads prevail:

    "Most professional Perl programmers already use perlbrew (including all our core devs), it is pretty much a community convention. You're welcome to contribute new documentation to the wiki, if it becomes popular it will get merged into core." — Sebastian Riedel

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  3. Here is a list of alternative web frameworks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_application_frameworks#Perl

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  4. Perhaps your ticket was just awfully written? Here's the missing link to the full conversation. https://github.com/kraih/mojo/issues/331

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  5. I do not disagree that maybe I could have been explicit but I'm not convinced that it would have yielded a different result.

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  6. Looks like he specifically left out the part where Sebastian told him that he did not understand the request... classy!

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  7. I don't even care about the full conversation, calling people out like that is wrong and invalidates your whole argument.

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  8. Are you a troll or incompetent?

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  9. I was sincerely trying to help the project. I'm not a mojo expert so I tried to point it out for someone who was so they could address. I'm not interested in anyone's negative and non productive attention this post has received.

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  10. As I said in several replies to comments. This was a sincere attempt... (this comment stream is closed)

    Update: Larry Wall, father of Perl, said hubris and not asshole. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Wall#section_3

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